Liking limit doesn't really make sense
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EuphieDesu Resident
I understand the addition of limits, but where these limits are being added don't really make sense to me, such as the following and liking limits. I feel those should be removed, but instead maybe add limits in other places that fit more in a moderating sense such as a sharing limit. I feel a limit like that makes more sense than a liking or following limit.
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Luke Rowley
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I've increased the limit to 2000 likes per 24 hours, please let me know if you ever hit that limit, and please don't like every post you see on your feed!
Luke Rowley
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I will increase the limit to 1000. While I can understand it might be frustrating, I try to keep a balance for limits to not punish actual users, and bad behavior from users.
There are accounts with +25000 likes, Primfeed is not even 2 weeks old. I don't want people to farm likes on every post they see to show themselves in order to, maybe, get a follow.
Brat Waifu
Luke Rowley Sponsors look at this engagement as incentive to recruit the blogger as a form of advertisement for their store, or in most cases- to use the platform itself as it's centered around the Second Life Community. Please reconsider a 24 hour limit, or as Rizz Reaper suggested; a Captcha. As this is harming Bloggers who use this platform daily as I have :(
I will also add, it would be nice to know what the 'reset' time is for primfeed, as some of us are still restricted from liking :(
Rizz Reaper
Luke Rowley My argument against the 'farming' thing is that, it's up to those people at the end of the day to follow someone.
I personally have never been hit by the follower or like limit but the reason why I care about this is on principle.
If I was to like a bunch of photos from one person, that person is not compelled to follow me back. They have the freedom of choice to do so.
I would agree if people were using a script to spam likes, but if someone is genuinely liking photos, they should have that choice. And if someone sees their photos have been liked, they have the choice to follow them or return the like or, do absolutely nothing and ignore the 'spam'.
Fae Waifu
Luke Rowley If there are people abusing Primfeed by using bots or whatever, then actions should be taken against them, but not the rest of us who are actually interacting with other members. I spend hours on Primfeed and being restricted really doesn't feel nice. I woke up this morning thinking I would be able to engage on Primfeed again but no I was still restricted. As someone who actually pays the pro membership it really didn't feel nice. Not on any social media account have I ever been restricted to like posts {I used to be a RL blogger for a couple of years}.
Lilitreamont Resident
Rizz Reaper Everything you said is spot on. No one is forced to follow back or even like back, etc., but limiting the ways that we can be seen makes no sense. Just posting a photo and waiting for followers will take years, many of us are trying to drop Flickr as fast as possible to fully move here, but can’t do that until we have at least close to an equivalent follower count, and we have in the thousands on Flickr. So yes we’re engaging a lot, I don’t see how that’s a bad thing
Emanuelle Hultcrantz
Luke Rowley I know you really concerned about the bot using on here, and this is hard and a huge problem in every social media around. Flickr had a ton of bots for auto following, for auto comment, for auto liking stuff. No one, the real people, likes them. We here, everyone commenting, don't like them. I think this is a special time to make new contacts and know new people, and too as a way to support new people, that are dropping in the first time or after a long hiatus cause Flickr just kicked them. This place is special, and we are investing in it cause we believe in it. I can't, for now, enter financially, but I will soon drop in as a premium.
And yes, I like a lot of photos, but I (as everyone in here) were already known in other socials before. we put a lot of work in other socials. if people follow us, it is primarily because of that. We believe in primfeed as much as you do.
About the bot issue, the idea posted by Rizz Reaper seem reasonable and a way to avoid that. Bots have patterns, bots don't rest and are normally around the same, with the likes creating a clocked pattern. If you want to avoid bots, however, limiting likes but not comments seem a bad way to do it: a spam of 500 comments would make more follower count than a spam of 1000 likes.
Rizz Reaper
as Emanuelle Hultcrantz said, we're all against botting/scripted likes. But genuine interaction should be free
Rizz Reaper
I think a compromise here is using a rate limit per minute, not per 24 hours.
Botting is going to happen and is unavoidable without pissing off the userbase. It's an unfortunate reality of running a social media.
Also, if you're so afraid of bots, use captcha
Brat Waifu
It's not right as someone who needs engagement to keep sponsors happy. It feels like we're getting 'trade offs' for features.
infinite scroll -> limited likes.
As a platform, you cannot limit interactions. Especially one meant for a community. Ideally, I would like it reversed and to not be staying as to grow, is to interact. To not interact is securing the platform as unusable for those who attempt to grow their following/engagements.
Emanuelle Hultcrantz
He said that was a bug and it was corrected, still I am receiving the same thing. Maybe when the day goes it will go away.
Lilitreamont Resident
Emanuelle Hultcrantz He confirmed on a different bug report thread this is a new feature unfortunately, the limit is real, the bug was that everyone was receiving the pop up for a short time after it went live, but the 500 likes per day is real and staying
Emanuelle Hultcrantz
Lilitreamont Resident That makes little to no sense... what's the reason to have a community when you can't like stuff?
Lilitreamont Resident
Totally agree with this, there's also no point to endless scroll if there's limited likes. I understand that there seems to be a focus on "authentic" interactions (only liking pics that you LOVE, only following those that truly blow you away, etc) at the base of Primfeed, but as this was a platform built for bloggers to share photos (along with non-bloggers) that doesn't really work. I don't see an issue with giving out likes. We shouldn't be limited in how we engage with others' content or how we grow our accounts. I'm coming from 4.1K followers on Flickr, yes, visibility here is a top priority to me at the moment and I'm very active on the site due to that.
Alternatively- Maybe make these limits for free accounts and allow Pro to be truly Unlimited? Pro needs more perks...
Emanuelle Hultcrantz
Lilitreamont Resident I think that the base of every social media is to create a community around it. It is you follow friends, make other friends, share knowledge, creations, interesting facts and so on. Stores share their stuff, artists share their art, bloggers share their knowledge on stuff, and so on... It is important to value people that are starting as well the people that are already around. Flickr was very important to me to grow as an artist, I knew a lot of people there and learned a ton. I value here more than Flickr (as you do as well) cause that sense of community on Flickr just died and there became just a repository of images. If the way here will be me interacting just with my followers, in the end, it will probably become just another Flickr.
Lilitreamont Resident
Emanuelle Hultcrantz 100% to all of this!
Fae Waifu
I agree, especially 500 likes is basically forcing me to just like pictures of the people I follow and not interact with others. Especially for bloggers who need to interact to gain engagement to keep their sponsors happy.
Fae Waifu
15 hours later and I still cannot like so I'm not sure when the reset point will be ..